Biographic Information: English, Male, 23yrs
Themes: Biographical information (where participant is from), Participant’s education (nursing/medical field), Participant’s family, Participants’ likes and interests (outdoor activities, homesteading, music, language, literature, etc.), Traveling and participant’s stories, Participant’s plans for future and outlook on life
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[00:00]
Interviewer: Okay, so we’ll start with, where did you grow up?
00:10
Participant I’ve essentially grown up in Las Cruces, New Mexico. I’ve lived here all of my life. I went to elementary school at East Picacho Elementary, then I progressed to Vista Middle School and through high school I went to Mayfield. And then eventually I came here once I was eighteen and I got my first degree in agricultural biology. Once I graduated, I moved directly onto nursing because I kind of realized I was going in a direction of my life where I didn’t really want to go and I genuinely wanted to help people. So I changed course and moved on to nursing. So, I’m really enjoying it now.
00:44
I: Good, so tell me a little bit more about the nursing program.
00:47
P: So the nursing program at NMSU, it’s, a really, it’s uh phenomenal. It’s essentially you spend a year and a half getting into the program, and then you actually spend the las- the next two and a half years in the program itself taking courses that comprise nursing as a whole. Um it’s levels one through five. Each semester is a level. Currently I’m in level two, which is one of the hardest levels. And, all things, if all things go well, I’ll be in level three next semester. And then, I’ll, since I am in the Roadrunner program, which is essentially an accelerated program, since I already have a degree, um they only allow twenty people in the program every year and it’s accelerated, so instead of doing the five semesters or the five levels of the nursing program in two and a half years, you do it in a year and a half flat. So you basically do level one and you do level four over the summers. So it’s very accelerated, very rigorous, but I love it.
01:46
I: I bet it keeps you busy.
01:48
P: Very. Um it’s far, It’s definitely harder than my first degree. That’s saying a lot because my first degree was very, very science heavy. And um, it was basically a biology degree. I could, I could’ve went to med school, but I decided that I wanted more patient interaction with my um, in medicine. So you know I didn’t want to just walk into a room and like most physicians and diagnose the patient and or tell them what’s going to happen and then walk out. That’s typically you know most interactions with physicians is only five minutes, ten minutes at most, especially in the hospital setting, whereas the nurse is there with the patient basically twenty-four seven. And so there’s a lot more patient interactions. I find it to be a lot more meaningful. Um, for you actually have, at least from my perspective, you have more of an impact than just walking in, telling them what’s wrong with them, and walking out. Plus you can, there’s a lot more room for traveling. And so eventually with enough time, after I work here for a year, which will be by the end of next year, I’ll be a full, I’ll be a certified nurse. Then I’ll start travel nursing after I get a year’s experience and then I can travel all around the country with a camper and uh do travel nursing and make six figures easy enough. And then from there I’ll move on to advanced practitioning and I’ll either be a nurse practitioner or a nurse anesthetist and I’ll either do family care or I’ll specialize into acute care. So.
03:16
I: That sounds like you have it all figured out.
03:17
P: Pretty much. I mean and, it’s really, it’s gonna be really interesting, especially with the travel nursing, because you essentially take contracts every three months to six months contracts, and you can go anywhere in the country and have a job. Even in the most rural, even the most rural areas of the country where you wouldn’t think there’d be jobs, you there’s always gonna be a need for medicine, even if it is in small clinics. So I could even find myself in Alaska. And that’s ideally probably by the time I’m thirty-five, ideally I’ll have enough money, being that I’ll already be making six figures by the end of next year. Um well, at least by the, def, by within the next two years, I’ll be making that much money. Even start, you’ll almost be making that because nurses are in such high demand now, ever since COVID, that um on average, I think starting salary, even in this area of the country, which we pay less, it’s like 75,000, 80,000 a year. And then most other areas of the country, you automatically start at like ninety, um start. So it’s pretty, it’s pretty crazy, but it’s a very, very stressful and it’s a very intense job, but it’s well worth it, especially the meaning that it provides to you and you genuinely get to help others. So it’s not about the money, but it definitely helps I suppose. Especially with the sense that being that I want to go travel nursing I can probably end up by the time I’m thirty-five, forty I’ll probably end up in Alaska and then by the time I’m fifty I probably have a homestead. So I’ll have a bunch of animals and cows and farm animals. It’ll be fun. Um, you know, might as well enjoy retirement. Or I, I probably would still be working. I think I’d go nuts if I didn’t work, but I’d be working probably part-time and I’d have a homestead somewhere in Alaska, probably near Anchorage, so I can at least work at the main hospital there or within a nearby area. Um, maybe do rural medicine, so I could go to the rural areas like the tribes around. Um, a lot of the indigenous tribes in Alaska, as well as other parts of the country, the very rural areas are typically underserved by medicine, so I’d probably be going to pretty remote areas and providing medicine and uh doing nurse practitioning. Basically doing everything a doctor can do except surgery. But even then, um nurse practitioners, they can, in thirty-three out of the fifty states, they can practice on their own without being under the supervision and or the license of an actual doctor because they have, with enough, sperie— with enough experience and training, I’ve, I’ve found some nurse practitioners to be better than some actuals medical doctors that are in family practice. Um just depends on the person, not so much where they’re trained. It’s really on the individual that makes the difference.
05:52
I: I agree. I think you have a very smart outlook on things.
05:57
P:Well true. Yeah, it’ll be interesting to see where things go. Either I’ll end up in Alaska or Wyoming and or Idaho but anywhere up north in the western part of the United States where it’s more rural and there’s just more things to do in the outdoors. That’s what I do. I basically when I’m not in nursing school I’m in the outdoors doing either hiking, backpacking, stream fishing, a lot of rock climbing, just anything and everything you could think of, kayaking, even running to some extent.
06:23
I: That sounds awesome. So I’m going to backtrack a little bit. You mentioned a homestead. I have to ask because I don’t know what a homestead is.
06:29
P:Um, so, essentially, a homestead is where you’re, you try to live somewhat off the grid. It, I mean there’s varying degrees of homesteading. However, some have wells where they have their own water, they have their own sewage, like a septic tank and then they also provide a lot of their own food, as well as um, uh just overall heating. So, they heat their houses with wood. But it just depends on what degree. I mean, I probably wouldn’t go all the way. Like I’d still want, obviously, I’d still want electricity. I mean, a lot of them actually are self-sufficient to the point where they have everything self-sufficient. They’ll even have whole solar setups to where they don’t even need to be connected to the electrical grid. Um, I’d probably go ha-, I’d probably meet somewhere in the middle. Um, so, I’d be, I’d be, it’ll be interesting. I mean, I, I don’t think I’d probably try, I wouldn’t try to grow all of my own food. That’s just too much. I’d probably just have like a dairy cow, maybe some goats, some pigs, and then um maybe once a year just to have a cow for slaughter. And then really you can grow a lot of your own fruits and vegetables, more so vegetables, the fruits you’d basically bUm, so just have a really good pantry, I guess, of stocked food.
07:51
I: Do you have any experience with livestock?
07:54
P:Uh, with livestock?
07:55
P:Yeah, my uncle had a ranch when I was younger. We did a lot of uh cattle- We did a lot of branding, and we also did a lot of, we would essentially raise these cattle and then sell them off to auction for meat. It was pretty interesting to see the whole process of actually ranching. And it is, it is definitely a lifestyle cus my uncle was one of the toughest people I ever knew and it was really hard work. You know, we’re living like true cowboys, so it’s fun. But it’s very hard work and it is definitely a lifestyle.
08:25
I: Oh yes, and I bet you learned a lot without even realizing you were learning it.
08:29
P:Mhm
08:30
I: So tell me a little bit more about your family. You mentioned your uncle. Do you have do you have siblings? Do you have…
08: 35
P:So I have a twin brother and I have an older brother and then um, I also, I mean the majority of my family lives in Cruces, however most of them have left or died by now. Um, my parents, my father grew up in La-, my father grew up in Cru-, grew up, grewed up in Cruces, but my mother, she was in Alamogordo and moved here to go to college at NMSU. Both my parents are alumni here and so I guess, I guess I just kind of followed in their footsteps. Especially now, it made sense with the free education, however, since this is my second degree, it doesn’t really matter. I still have to pay for it. Um, I don’t know, I don’t know how I feel about that. Um, so. I can imagine with you, you know, you probably have too many credit hours, don’t you?
09:25
I: Yes, I do.
09:26
P: I figured as as much.
09:28
I: I understand, I understand what you mean.
09:30
P:So yeah, other than that, I mean, most of my family is either in the northern part of the country or in Canada. And um I have a lot of great aunts and uncles that live in the Netherlands, but I’ve never been there. Not yet. Like I said, it’s going to be, you know, um within the next year, once I’m done with nursing school and I start travel nursing, money is never going to be a real big issue with me. So I’ll be able to travel and actually do the things I want to do. And then, you know, it’s not going to be uncommon to where I can be like, okay, I work three months on and then I work three months off and I just travel for those three months and then I can go back. This is why nursing I genuinely saw that I could genuine I could help a lot of people truly in in a very noble way and at the same time do the things I genuinely want to do And it will give me the income to do it.
10:20
I: Good. I think that’s, that’s a, a nice good balance there. So,
10:23
P: Mhm.
10:24
I: The Netherlands, is that where you want to go first?
10:27
P:Mm mm. If I was to choose a country to go first to, I’d probably ch- ick, pick Spain or I’d pick Japan. But the Netherlands is definitely up there. Um or Germany. I’ve a lot of, I actually have family in Germany as well. Um, but we’ll see. I mean its, I just kind of play things by ear, especially now that I’m in the nursing program, now all I do is focus on the next week cus um it’s not, it’s not uncommon for us to get uh assigned, you know, 13 to 15 assignments a week. And that’s not even including the readings and the extra um studying we have to do outside of um class. So it’s pretty intense, um especially now that we’re in the accelerated program over the summer, we’ll do 8, we’ll do 16 weeks of course material in 10 weeks. So it’s not fun. Mhm.
11:16
I: Intense.
11:17
P: Yeah, its, thi- this is why um nursing students are the way they are. I can see it now. They’re very, you know, just very focused and determined and they don’t really have time for anyone else unless they genuinely want to make it for them. So I can see it now. Makes a lot of sense. But it’s fun. It’s well worth it, very fulfilling. So,
11:39
I: It’ll be worth it in the end.
P: Mm-hmm.
11:41
I: And it’s even worth it now because I’m sure you’re getting lots of good experiences even through the stress, right?
11:47
P: Yeah, I mean I’m doing, I’m actually doing, I’m doing far better than I ever thought I’d do, but um like recently we just got done taking the pharm exam in a, in level 2, which I’m in now, but if you didn’t know pharmacology is one of the hardest classes in nursing and I got the high score so it’s not it’s not too bad but that’s coming from me so it’s a little different I feel as though I’m coming into the program with a background that most people don’t have since I already have a degree and I’m very heavy into science into chemistry and as well as biology and so it gives me a little bit of an advantage at least in the sense of having a more broader knowledge and a knowledge base I can draw from if I to if I don’t know something or I can kind of relate it. So there is some advantages to being a little older and already having a degree, but I gotta pay for it. So I don’t know if that’s worth it or not. So.
12:36
I: So, um, we’ll stray a little bit from the academic now. You mentioned you love being outdoors, kayaking, hiking, running. Tell me a little bit about that. How did you get into it?
12:53
P: Uh, I got into it with my father. He’s very involved in my life, especially my younger years, so we’d always do those things. And then naturally, as I got older, I would just go do them and joined Boy Scouts and then the Adventure Crew to do those things. Been everywhere from, you know, sailing all the way around the Florida Keys to backpacking and hiking up Mount Shasta, which is a volcano in California. It’s about, its 14,000 feet. And then I did a lot of trips, like just fifty mile backpacking trips into the wilderness. That’s really fun. They were week-long trips. I do a lot of hunting, but anymore I don’t really do much hunting other than bow hunting. And even if I have the time, I wish I could do more, but I did a lot of hunting, but now I just do bow hunting for the most part. And yeah, and a lot of stream fishing. That’s why I probably want to really go to Idaho eventually. They have some of the best stream fishing in the country and it’s so pretty. If you’ve ever seen the mi- movie, A River Runs Through, that’s where it’s at. You’ve seen it? Yes, that movie, it might be a little boring, but the overall cinematography is absolutely astounding.
13:57
I: I have, I have a great appreciation for that movie actually. So,
14:01
P: I mean, yeah, but also I guess um another one is Legends of the Fall. That’s also a good setting. Ideally, I always imagine I’d have a homestead or a ranch like that in an area, a northern, northern, either northern New Mexico would even be pretty, but somewhere up north, definitely not in the desert. That’s why I’m doing my utmost to get out of Las Cruces as fast as I can. I’ve been here way too long, um but it’s all right. Um I only have a year left in nursing school and once that I work six months to a year here and I just, I’m out. So it won’t be that big, it’s not that long of a wait. Basically by 2026, so it’s not that far.
14:45
I: That was going to be my next question, if you liked Las Cruces, but I-
14:50
P: Mmmm, I think Las Cruces is a good place to raise a family. I really do. If you look at it’s just the way it’s set up and how big it is. It’s big enough to be a city, but it’s not too big, like a truly big city, traffics not too bad so you can get to most places in twenty minutes, at most. Its kinda nice. And there is- the hospitals are big enough and there are enough things here or, that where it’s like the perfect mix between um, city and a normal just rural town. Its like, it’s why I thin LAs Cruces is a fantastic place to have a family. Now, whether I come back or not, that remains to be seen. It just depends how I like things, where I might start traveling. Um, eventually I probably would come back here and retire. I, I look at this now and I think a lot of young people in general, uh, they get the “home town blues” and they want to get out and explore the world, naturally. But usually they, pretty much a lot of the times end up back where they started but you never know. I mean, I’m very, I, I try to keep a very open mind, and I’m not- I’m never gonna say never. But its probably very likely, or I wouldn’t say very likely, but it is possible that eventually when I’m sixty or seventy I would come back here but I probably wouldn’t be able to have the homestead I want. Or like the ranch I’d want up north so I, I probably, probably settle down in northern New Mexico if any not southern. Um, I’m thinking up near Santa Fe, or Area Lincoln (?), even northern Nevada is really nice. Just depending where where, my practice take me even Alaska. I wouldn’t be surprised if I just end un in Alaska and stay there. It’s such a cool state and you know, most of its rural, and its very untouched and its like one of the last true wildernesses and so I’d be, I’d be able to help a lot of the indigenous tribes up there with medicine and providing them. And the crazy thing is I’ve heard like the tribes are so rural that a lot of the times yes, you’ll be practicing medicine there and providing them health care that they otherwise wouldn’t have, but a lot of the time you have to help them with normal day-to-day activities because everyone in that tribe helps each other. So I’d help them with fishing and then other hunting and other tasks that they normally would do every day within everyday life. So, other than just being a health care provider. So yeah, it’ll be interesting.
17:01
I: Yeah, that sounds like a good blend of everything you like.
17:04
P: Mm-hm.
17:06
I: All right, so can you tell me of a significant event or a significant time from when you’ve been out doing all these outdoorsy things, something that you remember, a good memory?
17:16
P:Yeah, when I was sixteen, I uh was in the Gila Wilderness. I was on a backpacking trip in Jordan Hot Springs. It’s a very popular spot. It’s a seven-mile hike in and it was on Chris- it was the week of, it was during Christmas week. What happened was, is that there was a giant flood. We got trapped in the canyon and we were there for a week. And on Christmas Day, we got evacuated out with a Black Hawk helicopter from the National Guard. And we didn’t have food for seven days. But we had water, fortunately, because the reason why we were stuck was because our campsite was located around, it was in a very steep canyon. And behind us, there was cliff face. And in front of us, there was river and the river, basically, from overnight, it went from knee deep, so we could cross it with our backpacks, to eleven feet deep and there was actual trees floating in the river and boulders. You could feel the ground shake from boulders. That’s how fast the water was moving in the current. The river, I think, was when we first hiked in, it was maybe ten feet wide. And then that morning we woke up, it was a hundred feet across. So we go- theres no way we could cross it. And so we were stuck for a week without food because we ran out of food and we got airlifted out by a Blackhawk helicopter. So that was fun. I got to ride in a helicopter, so yeah, bucket list, check marked. So that’s one of the cool experiences I’ve had. I guess there was another time where I was coming back from the Gila Wilderness. This was just a camping trip we did over spring in 2020 with some of my friends and I. Yeah, I rolled my vehicle eight times off the highway on that one but that was okay. I only had a sprained spine and a mild concussion so I got very lucky. And then I went to Costa Rica last year and so I was studying my first year was agricultural biology but I had a focus in entomology so I was studying tropical insect ecology in Costa Rica with Dr. Bundy in Skeen Hall in the EPWS department. That was really fun. It was really cool to see an actual tropical rainforest as well as a cloud forest. We got to do a lot of black lighting, so we’d draw insects in at night and we’d identify them and we were collecting shrew bugs, which is a very specific species of um insect. We were ta- collecting them for the museum back here at NMSU. So that was really cool. We basically got it to go to another country and collect insects. Some of the insects were just absolutely gorgeous. I mean there’d be, sometimes we’d have moths come in that were the size of your face. I mean their wingspan was a foot in diameter. It’s pretty amazing. They’re very pretty. And, so we did that and oh, and then the last day we were there I tore my ACL. I remember this distinctly. I tore my ACL playing volleyball in La Tortuga Island. It was a fun time.
20:20
I: You-, that’s awesome. I don’t know what to say. That is, that all sounds really cool. Are you ever scared in these situations?
20:25
P: No.
20:526
I: You talk about them like you’re not, but in the moment, are you, are you scared?
20:30
P: There’s no point to being scared I think anxiety is I think anxiety is a waste of time in general I mean what’s the point of being anxious if the future hasn’t actually happened so even in the moment to keep a level head it’s truly takes a lot of hmm it takes a lot of, I don’t know, courage I’d say, truly. And um you know, to remain level-headed when everything’s going wrong is truly a sign of character. That’s what I do. I try to do my best to do so whenever things are going wrong. I mean it’s really easy to be happy and joyous when everything’s going right in your life, but when things are actually going wrong is when it really, whenever you really get the time to shine and show your true self, it’s like most people. Are they really there? Are they friends of convenience? Or are they actually really friends? Well,I don’t know. Would they be there for you? Would they be for you in the time of need? Or are they just there because it’s convenient? Only time will tell. Adversity reveals us all, right?
21:42
I: I like that, very wise.
2:45
P: Yeah, I get to start talking about that stuff and it’s just its just interesting. Um I guess like, it’s a, I guess its a stark contrast from what we were talking about, but in general I’d say…
I: Go, go ahead, continue
22:00
P: Um well, I just don’t like to make generalizations as a whole, but I feel as though there might be a lack of… a lack of… mmm I’m trying to think of the word.
22:29
P: Resilience. There we go. I feel as though there’s a lack of resilience at least in our generation to some degree. It’s all relative truly but I feel as though that a lot of people they go to university they don’t know what they want to do which isn’t an issue. I didn’t know what I wanted to do but at the same time I feel as though that if you’re aimless especially after your sophomore year, um it feels as though you’re just wasting your time. Because there’s so many other avenues that you could be successful in, other than just going to university. I think the whole message of, you have to go to university right out of high school, and this is the, this is the main way you’re going to be successful is completely ridiculous. Because in all actuality, there’s many trades that you could make even more money than most people with four-year degrees, like plumbing, electrici- electrician, HVAC, anything like that. Umm also, college isn’t meant for everyone, and to push, to think it is, is ridiculous. I mean, the way the college system is set up is really to get the most amount of money from the student. Um whether, that’s why we do FAFSA so that they can calculate exactly how much they are going to charge you um so that they know exactly how much you’re willing to pay for university. It’s kind of unfortunate that the American university system’s kind of developed into that. It’s a corporation truly. Um, it’s there to make money and it’s just not for everyone for sure. And to to to put where a lot of people are going to get into these ridiculous amounts of debt for a degree that more than likely will not pay for itself is also ridiculous. Its, tt’s probably not the best plan going forward. But if it makes you happy, then you’ll find a way. I’m not saying, I’m not trying to discourage anyone, but I think there needs to be a little bit of, you know, consideration for that prior. But I mean, what are you going to do when you’re eighteen? You’re so young, you’re not there really. I’d say really until you’re about twenty-five you can maybe start conceptualizing the world in a way that’s fairly mature, I mean especially men, we don’t develop our frontal cortex doesn’t completely develop to where 25 women it does a little sooner, so but I just feel as though there’s a lack of I just see a lot of lack of aim and a lot of people especially young men I see it, I see it now so often. There’s a lot, there’s a genuine lack of vision, and they’re kind of aimless. And then they usually, when people don’t know what they want, they usually hurt others in the pursuit of trying to figure that out. But it’s all part of life. You gotta learn some way.
25:10
I: That’s true. And everybody learns at their own pace, whatever pace that may be.
25:15
P: Yeah. Um so, but I just see that there’s a lot of lack of resilience amongst a lot of the freshmen and sophomores, but now that I’m older and I can see it, and hopefully that changes, but that really can’t be taught. That’s more of, I mean if it is taught, it’s going to be at a very young age, and it’s something that’s conditioned. I mean you can teach it whenever you’re an adult, but it’s going to be a lot harder, it’s a lot harder of a learning curve than it is when you’re younger. So, time will tell.
I: Time will tell.
P: And then, but ultimately, I think that so long as people pursue things that are meaningful and not um ideations of short-term pleasure, then they’ll actually live worthwhile lives. I mean, to think that you’re going to get the majority of your fulfillment in life from your job is also ridiculous. Um, most people don’t have careers, they have jobs. I mean, if you really think about it, most people wouldn’t be doing the thing they’re doing without getting paid. Even with me as nursing, I’d love to do it, but it doesn’t mean I would do it for free. Um, so as long as, you know, I think a lot of people’s, the true meaning in life is going to come from your family and your friends and the people who you surround you-, surround yourself with. Because at the end of the day, at your deathbed, you really want to be laying there all by yourself and, you know, it doesn’t really sound that fulfilling to me. You know, you’d want to be surrounded by the people you love and the legacy you leave behind. So.
26:53
I: Right. You talk a lot about traveling, so I, and based on what you just said, I’m assuming you don’t want to travel alone?
27:00
P: Mmmmm. Not ideally, no. um ideally, um I would want to travel um with someone um, but it’s very hard. I I I feel as though it’s very hard to find someone that would be wanting to travel, unless they’re another nurse or they’re just willing to come along for the ride or the adventure. It’s very hard to find people that are willing to, that would want to go and do something like that. Especially that are very outdoor oriented. So, could bring a corgi. But yeah, no ideally by the time I, by the time I’d start travel nursing, yeah I’d probably have someone, but if I was to have someone like that I’d pretty much be marrying them. I feel as though, you know, if you were to date someone for two, three years, especially once you’re in your mid to or late 20s, what are you waiting for? I feel like you-,it’s like the saying, either you uh, are you goin-, are you going to shit or are you going to get off the pot? You know, You’re kind of prolonging the inevitable. And I see with university that a lot of university is prolonging adolescence. Because back then it, you know back then people grew up very fast. Mainly, it was off the fact that they had children at younger ages, and a lot of other things as well, but I feel like now, university is just prolonging adolescence. People need to grow the hell up sometimes. And you know, the real world isn’t, the university is not a very good representation of the real world. Because in the real world, there’s a lot of things where it doesn’t matter, but in university they at least portray that it does. And not to say that you should be indifferent or completely mmmm, judgmental of someone else’s and what they’re doing, at least of how they’re mature, mature, maturity-wise, but hmmm, I don’t know, it’s just interesting. But yes, if eventually yes, like um ideally I would have someone that would travel-, that I’d travel with. I have no illusions, because I already know as a fact that I more than likely would get lonely eventually if I was to travel and I was moving around every like three to four months all across the country. So, with time, it just takes time. You know, it’s like the last thing I’d ever want to do is to rush into something or you know, being, to be in a relationship that’s, that you’re going to sacrifice on so many of your true values just the, just because you’re not okay with being alone. Cus if you’re not okay with being alone, then are you truly happy? No, you’re not because you’re not happy with yourself so how do you expect to be happy with anyone else? Truly, and so with time. Mhmm yeah, the last thing I’d ever want is to rush into a relationship just because I’m quote-in-quote lonely. That’s just ridiculous. Haha I mean it’s just not, its just not a good um recipe for success in terms of a long term. And statistically speaking, it’s actually very funny, I actually was listening to a podcast yesterday, and it was saying how arranged marriages actually, in the long term, have fewer divorces than marriages that are, yeah, than marriages that are, at least in the Western world, are more so on the actual individual, more so on the individual’s choice. It’s very interesting how that works out. I think because if you go into marriage thinking that it’s only because of love eventually that’s going to fade or to a degree it’s not going to be the same as it was when you were younger or when you were it was initial right because things do kind of dull over time nothing’s like but you could still love one another with a passion but it’s not going to be the same as if it was initially there’s such a thing as a honeymoon phase and whatnot and I find it interesting that you know you have to, if you’re going to marry, you have to be, you have to be wanting to marry someone other than just the whole aspect of love. You know? There has to be other reasons. I mean, they could be socioeconomic, they could be um just a a plethora of things, but to only marry someone just because you love them, it’s like, well, that’s only one thing. Shouldn’t there be other things there? Because I feel as though that the more things that you have in common and the more things you genuinely um see in one another that you like, then it’s probably going to maintain that relationship in the long term other than just the actual love you have for one another. So, yeah there has to be a lot of reasons. Um, it can’t just be because of love and you’ve seen this yourself I take it its like you can tell people who are actually in a relationship because they love each other and you can see and they have a lot in common and they do things together and you see people whoa re in relationships that just genuinely or its because either their lonely or it because um they’re just in it for sex or whatever, some superficial and shallow reason.
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I: And it all-, it really does have a lot to do with culture. Like you said arranged marriages work in the countries that they work because that’s the culture that they, that they foster, its all very interesting stuff.
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P: Yeah. (audio inaudible) I mean, I just think people need to figure out genuinely what they want but its hard to know what you want if you don’t know what you don’t want and usually you find out what you don’t want through trial and error and so…
32:25
I: What is she doing? I think she’s moving the furniture.
P:Mhm
I: Anyway, um yes, you’re right its a lot of trial and error and it comes down to just time. Alright, let’s move on to another question. I feel like you have so much to say, I don’t even know what to ask. Alright, lets do something a little bit more light hearted, music. What’s your taste in music? Do you listen to music?
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P: I do actually. Um, I mean everyone listens to music its one o fate few things that I would say even amongst people who are genuinely and clinically depressed its one of the few things that is kind of transcendent um it it genuinely a very very very depressed basically suicidal or on the edge of actually committing suicide actually lose the trancendendness or the feeling you get from music. Um, but would say I by and large half of the music I listen to is classical and or soundtracks uh, I feel as though words a lot of the times can be very I don’t want to say obnoxious but they can protract from the actual inser-, instrumentals and so I really love uh very complex either move scores or um scores in general from soundtracks as well as I just classical in general like Bach, Beethoven, um, Mozart as well as um Chaplain. And um Tra- tarkovsky. They’re very good, Russian musicians are one of my favorites, same thing with literature. I think Russian literature is absolutely fascinating um, but just as a whole I love reading the classics and just listening to classical music. Um, or soundtracks but other than that I listen to a lot of rock and country like just your general um modern day.
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I: Sweet
P: Mhm
I: Do you um, do you play any instruments?
34:20
P: Yeah, I play guitar. So I’ve been playing guitar ever since I was eight years old. So, come on, so it’s been almost 14 years, 16 years. I had a teacher for 8 years. So I’m, I’m okay. Um, but, ever since I was in the nursing program I haven’t been really able to play very much, cus I’m so busy, but it’s still fun, but I’m gonna probably pick up piano pretty soon and I’m learning, I’m learning two other languages now. I’m getting back into German. That was one of my first languages actually but I lost it kind of. My mother speaks it fluently and I picked it up when I was younger but I’m starting to relearn German fairly well. I’m doing very good and then Spanish. So, Spanish is very useful being- special being you end up going to the healthcare un field. It’s going to be very useful to know Spanish.
35:07
I: I’ve been trying to learn Italian for a couple of years.
P: Similar to one of the, um classical, classical languages, or Romance languages so you’ll be fine. Same with French. Um French, Italian Latin, but Latin is a dead language, even, e- Portuguese I guess would be one, but yeah.
35:25
I: So how did you get into the guitar? What kind of guitar?
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P: Uh, both acoustic and electric. I originally started of with rock music cus I just wanted to play GreenDay songs. And then I moved on to very advanced finger styles on acoustic. So I basically play the rhythm they melody and the drum, I actually do percussion at the same time with the finger styles so it very, its very fun, its very complex and love the intricacy of it. It’s why I like the nursing program. I mean its rigorous, and it might be a little hard-, well for me its not so much the actual material that’s hard its actual, just the workload but ultimately I, I love medicine as a whole that why I want to go into advanced practice because, I really love the intricacy and how complex it can be. Um, I’d get bored easily if i was into, uh if I was learning something that was fairly not as intricate or complex so, that why I could never do business. I mean it could be complex, it could be interes-, it could be as complex or intricate as you want but for me, um, I really like when its very scientific. And heavily science and patho-, Pasovi-, pathophysiologically based so.
36:28
I: Sweet well, I think we’re at time. Yeah, that’s more than enough so, unless you have anything else you’d like to add?
36:36
P: Mm mm.
36:37
I: No, sweet.
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